Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
    [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR?locations=CN
    [2] https://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Documents/TopTenPaxMarkets_graph.pdf
    [3] https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3024610/you-can-buy-russias-putin-pitches-su-57-stealth-jets
    [4] https://skift.com/2019/01/08/boeing-edges-airbus-to-stay-worlds-biggest-commercial-aircraft-manufacturer/
    [5] https://s2.q4cdn.com/661678649/files/doc_financials/annual/2019/Boeing-2018AR-Final.pdf
    [6] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/boeing-stock-all-time-high-on-china-demand-production-acceleration.html
    [7] https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-AIRPLANE/010091341G7/index.html
    [8] https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/283437/what-routes-does-the-boeing-737-max-8-fly/
    [9] https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/09/airbus--china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufa.html
    [10] https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
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    [13] https://www.marketplace.org/2019/02/11/ceo-americas-biggest-exporter-manufacturing-america-doing-business/
    [14] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/airbus-is-said-to-seal-long-awaited-aircraft-order-from-china
    [15] https://www.mhi.com/news/story/190625.html
    [16] https://ukranews.com/en/news/612803-antonov-planning-to-resume-production-of-an-148-an-158-and-an-178-planes-in-2019
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Comments • 2 838

  • J IJzer
    J IJzer  6 minutes back

    So also made in China garbage in the sky

    • Nicholas Miller
      Nicholas Miller  32 minutes back

      China will preference its own manufacturers when they reach proficiency. This is inevitable and understandable.

      Boeing doesn't need to be the world's largest airplane manufacturer to be successful or sustainable. The real challenge for Boeing will be whether the United States government and U.S. airlines are smart enough to prevent China from dumping airplanes on the U.S. market to undermine Boeing.

      • Luke Reeves
        Luke Reeves  2 hours back

        2.2m morons sub this crap. Humanity is so screwed.

        • Peng Fu
          Peng Fu  4 hours back

          Sure.....Boeing is not State Owned, but it certainly has lobbyists galore in influencing the U.S. government to give them tons of favors, especially huge military contracts.

          Remember our Dear Mister Patrick Shannonhan used to work for Boeing, then took on the role of our "ACTING U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE?";

          Remember the U.S. government gave Boeing the rights to bypass the stringent inspection and certification needed by the Federal Aviation Administration;

          How about our Furer Trump suggested to Boeing to rebrand their Boeing 737 Max 8?

          One more....So China is stealing our IPs and braniac works in the past, present and the foreseeable future, why do we still keep sending the empty planes for China to install the internal components? So they could learn how to build their own planes and we get to call them thief in the future?

          Digressing a bit here....Why is Tesla building their first foreign factory, the Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai? Aren't we just allow these cheaters to rob more of our inventions?

          One last thing....Since we hate socialism and communism sooooo much, why are we wearing and using so much Made In China junks touched by those dirty Communist hands? Look, that iPhone in our sanity democratic freedom swollen hands was assembled by the evil doers' nasty hands, human right violators, dog eaters, a country without any freedoms, Black Mirror social credit system implementors, and Urgyurs lockers.

          We are so much better than China. They need us and we never need them, so let's move all the business and production lines out of that fucking evil country that pollutes the world (by making stuff for us). Humongous mistakes were made! But why the fuck are we not move the jobs back home, but SEND THEM TO ANOTHER EVIL SNEAKY COMMUNIST COUNTRY, VIETNAM!!!???? Won't they fuck the poor little defenseless USA the same way China did?

          Anyone? Anyone?

          • tskjesusfreak
            tskjesusfreak  4 hours back

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            • mnguyea
              mnguyea  4 hours back

              China will buy its own made planes just as the Russians do for their smaller fleet. I just don't see them competing in this space as no one is gong to trust getting on a plane "Made in China.' They maybe good for electronics and consumer goods but I'm not trusting my life to them at 35k in the air.

              • Jack Tellerson
                Jack Tellerson  5 hours back

                How can you compete with state sponsored businesses. Abandon the Chinese market.

                • Ross
                  Ross  5 hours back

                  I think it's going to be a long time before any major Airline order's the Comac. I think they will wan't to see it in service for a few years to see how it copes first. Personally I think the best route for Chinese Airlines is to order planes like the A220, A320neo, A321neo.. as they are proven to be reliable and safe. Also the 3 major Chinese Airlines have A350's in their fleet that have had no problems what so ever so it's a no brainer.

                  • Mark W
                    Mark W  5 hours back

                    Standard Chinese practice... Force a Boeing to partner with a Chinese company to access the market... Steal the plans and make copies.

                    • Hringhorne Stularsson
                      Hringhorne Stularsson  5 hours back

                      I do NOT want to learn new things, everything that has worked for hundreds of years, will work for hundreds of years even in the future!!! ;)

                      • Regan Orr
                        Regan Orr  6 hours back

                        If you do business in Red China, ChiComs will STEAL your Intellectual Property! You'll Go Broke!

                        • Regan Orr
                          Regan Orr  6 hours back

                          Instead of Fixing the Nose Thrust Upward Problem, Boeing made Computer Adjustment! Genius!

                          • Kristen Sorensen
                            Kristen Sorensen  6 hours back

                            Boeing was just stupid not growing a twin jet 727 instead of the lousy cheep 737. Just my view. Funny China is building its own - NOT!

                            • Kristen Sorensen
                              Kristen Sorensen  6 hours back

                              So Boeing burned China worse than anyone how totally stupid! Oh yeah thanks FAA!

                              • Rob Badlands
                                Rob Badlands  7 hours back

                                maybe its not "big enuff" for your show, but as a WAstate born'raised i wanna know. how is a state, currently consider one of the bluest/greenest states. with the votes on legistlation and representation to evidence it. the home of the most dominant, monopolistic, human-neglecting-profit-maximizing megacorps? boeing, microsoft, amazon. in my lifetime, there have been 2 "richest people in the world". both hail from the evergreen state. which is home of evergreen college. which has the viral video of some kids going full-retard on some profs.

                                • Glauro Priori Campello
                                  Glauro Priori Campello  7 hours back

                                  Don't you forget EMBRAER, a Brazilian Aircraft Industry, now a partnership with Boeing, and presently with office in Beijing?

                                  • Abhay Gupta
                                    Abhay Gupta  7 hours back

                                    Bloody Chinese all low quality product manufacturer huh

                                    • Ming Fang
                                      Ming Fang  10 hours back

                                      The challenge of Boeing is quality not opportunity.

                                      • Adolf Galand
                                        Adolf Galand  10 hours back

                                        Let's start a trade war, that'll solve Boeings problems.

                                        • Roger Froud
                                          Roger Froud  10 hours back

                                          The biggest long term issue is definitely that China will eventually make their own aircraft, just like they've made everything else. You can bet they're stealing the IP for these and are reverse engineering what they can't steal. Once they're starting making their own, the rest of the world can kiss goodbye to selling them any aircraft.

                                          • Steve P
                                            Steve P  10 hours back

                                            China is building it's very own airliner.
                                            With technology stolen from Western Companies.
                                            In the years prior to the institution of "controls" on technology , China robbed us blind.

                                            • The Philosopher of Culture

                                              We all know that American institutions tend to be compromised by the companies that they are supposed to oversee. If the financial interests are large enough and the officials are of low morale, which they at some point of time will be if only by chance, all rules and laws are discarded. This happens to all societies based on money as its principal guiding principle, including South Korea and Japan. The Boeing scandal is just one of many. It started in public awareness with the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant scandal in 1979. It is a flaw of capitalism.

                                              • M B
                                                M B  11 hours back

                                                I think you mean a trio, not a trifecta

                                                • 閻宇
                                                  閻宇  12 hours back

                                                  Look how Macron's smiling. He must be grateful to DT.

                                                  • anthony wong
                                                    anthony wong  12 hours back

                                                    When you are flying in a MAX how many of you have thoughts of will this crash?

                                                    • DD
                                                      DD  12 hours back

                                                      Few things are "always" good. COMPETITION is one of those things that is ALWAYS GOOD. No exceptions.

                                                      • Zeus Knobblewacker
                                                        Zeus Knobblewacker  12 hours back

                                                        I see you didn’t include Taiwan on your map of China...

                                                        Good.

                                                        🇹🇼 🇹🇼🇹🇼

                                                        • Just4Kixs
                                                          Just4Kixs  13 hours back

                                                          And thus begins the wane of the USA as the leading nation of the world. That was the past century.
                                                          It's China's turn this century.

                                                          • Deren Bong
                                                            Deren Bong  13 hours back

                                                            allies? China has no frens, China colonizes countries through debt traps,

                                                            • BUrton BinGer
                                                              BUrton BinGer  13 hours back

                                                              When folks used "propped up" by the defence industry, it becomes unclear what the industry does. Defence, isn't a topic for discussion when soldiers are dying only when we feel safe. President Eisenhower said "beware" the defence industrial complex, you know the one that gave him his win WW2, it's not unheard of bad contracts being pushed through, on one hand but with a 700 billion annual bill money is flowing faster than can be spotted, until it's too late. The government does not "prop-up" Boeing or any other single company it is just as bad with all contractors, history mostly discovers the screwups but in the meantime, we sleep well and are military has enough bullets. So let's not follow an anxious moment for an old General, work on the value of defence, sleep well and prosper.

                                                              • Deren Bong
                                                                Deren Bong  13 hours back

                                                                you're a very naive commentator, u seriously believe everything that China says?

                                                                • Brad Wolf
                                                                  Brad Wolf  13 hours back

                                                                  China has a much stronger 強 position with boeung 寶行。- 郭天元

                                                                  • Sayan guria
                                                                    Sayan guria  15 hours back

                                                                    I generally dislike communists but china took the right decision by grounding MAX. FAA's corrupted behaviour was endangering lives of passenger around world.

                                                                    • Jlassi Jlali
                                                                      Jlassi Jlali  15 hours back

                                                                      it is not FAA corrupted it is more about the Goverment! he with years give them less and less Money ... they really killing it sslowly! ..and this all because Boeing corrupttion ..

                                                                  • LilacDoe
                                                                    LilacDoe  16 hours back

                                                                    You mean the US elected a mentally unstable president and now China is rapidly becoming a world leader... ~shocked~

                                                                    • Alpha Lobster
                                                                      Alpha Lobster  16 hours back

                                                                      Boeing 737, the finest aircraft I have ever flown.

                                                                      • A. H.
                                                                        A. H.  16 hours back

                                                                        The problem is not china, the problem is boeing

                                                                        • LogicalDrone
                                                                          LogicalDrone  19 hours back

                                                                          If Ryan Air or any other non-Chinese airline were to start using the C919, I would never take that flight. I wouldn't trust the build quality.

                                                                          • JackyDawg12
                                                                            JackyDawg12  20 hours back

                                                                            "Just by LOOKING at this plane, you can tell it's built to compete directly with Airbus' A320 and Boeing's 737"
                                                                            uhhh no I did not notice that

                                                                            • Yanshuo Li
                                                                              Yanshuo Li  21 hours back

                                                                              why wasnt taiwan also red?! china No.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :))))

                                                                              • king james488
                                                                                king james488  22 hours back

                                                                                "we want compensation for choosing not to use your planes!"

                                                                                typical china...
                                                                                I can't wait til they build their own plane and cheap out on everything, kill a bunch of people, and blame boeing/airbus because they copied their planes poorly.

                                                                                • Chris Edwards
                                                                                  Chris Edwards  1 days back

                                                                                  tfw you haven't filled your China and airplane-related video quota

                                                                                  • James Collins
                                                                                    James Collins  1 days back

                                                                                    Again .... a Chinese Communist mentality of stealing other people’s technology to make themselves successful.

                                                                                    • Abhishek Sahu
                                                                                      Abhishek Sahu  1 days back

                                                                                      Please make a video on logistics of movie making..for example all aspects of avengers,from star cast to planning to VFX pipeline

                                                                                      • shad manigat
                                                                                        shad manigat  1 days back

                                                                                        China is a separate planet, the want to build everything

                                                                                        • Boruto Shippuden
                                                                                          Boruto Shippuden  1 days back

                                                                                          1:10 where is Asias graph

                                                                                          • Ket
                                                                                            Ket  1 days back

                                                                                            China is a good market for Test and Computation PMA Replacement Articles.

                                                                                            • Darth Plagueis
                                                                                              Darth Plagueis  1 days back

                                                                                              i hate China but i like that they challenge the US when it comes to power, The US always think they can get away with everything so someone needs to put them in
                                                                                              their place

                                                                                              • Ian Britton
                                                                                                Ian Britton  1 days back

                                                                                                You're wrong. The max is TOAST.